Mike Pence’s moment in history has arrived. These times will define him for life. When he is standing in judgement before St. Peter the question he will be asked is what did he do when the President of the United States of America incited a coup to remain in power.
Up until now, Pence hardly seemed like the person who could or would rise to the occasion. He was one of the first people to sell in soul in the hopes of being the successor. He saw it as part of God’s plan.
Back then it was easy to make fun of him. Vice President Brown Nose was the butt of many jokes. Some of his pronouncements about thanking God for being blessed to share the same space-time continuum as his Lord and Savior, the Chosen One, Blessed Be his Name, will haunt him for the rest of his life.
Now after four years, what does he have to show for having sold his soul?
He tried in a private meeting to inform the President that as Vice President he did not have the Constitutional authority to do what he was being asked to do. He should have known better. He was speaking to a person blessed with having no ethics, no conscience, and no morals. He was speaking to someone who lives on the basis of do what you want until or unless someone stops you. Legal limits are merely obstacles to work around. The Presidential statement that “The Vice President and I are in total agreement that the vice president has the power to act” highlights the futility of Pence’s efforts to convince the President of the United States of America to obey the law.
“I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. I hope so, I hope so, because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. [O]ne of the top constitutional lawyers in our country [said Pence] “the absolute right to” throw out the election results.
Mike Pence has to agree to send the Electors back. Otherwise the Criminal in chef would be “very disappointed” in him.
Mike Pence should not have been surprised that this President would throw him under the bus. Loyalty is a one-way street. You don’t acquire Loyalty Points for all the actions you have taken in the past; your loyalty always is based on the current request for complete and total obedience. Although Pence had complied, the final straw had been placed and it broke the camel’s back. As it turns out, Pence’ loyalty to country and Constitution trumped loyalty to an individual.
When the assault came at The Capitol, Mike Pence did rise to the occasion. He did what needed to be done. While the Criminal in-chief voiced his supporter for the insurrection, Pence prevailed to have the National Guard to intervene even though he had no authority to do so.
A change has occurred. There has been a lot of talk about what our deranged unhinged immature child president might do during his waning days in office. There is one thing which won’t happen: he will not step down at the last moment so Mike Pence as the President can pardon him. Previously I had raised the question of whether the Impeached President would even be willing to resign and trust Pence to pardon instead of his just having the last laugh. Now that scenario will not happen.
While the President of the United States has a lot of power, here are limits to what he can do on his own. For example, he lacks the mental necessities to write more than “I pardon Donald Trump.” Someone else has do the work. Someone else has to carry out the orders. We already have had the experience with the last days of Nixon where procedures were put in place to prevent his actions being implemented without sign-off by an adult in room. We are at the moment now.
In the early months of this administration there was a lot of silly talk about the 25h Amendment. Somehow V.P Brown Nose was going to lead a cabinet coup against the mentally impaired immature child President and restore decency to the Oval Office. The idea that Pence would rise to the occasion was so absurd as to be completely laughable. None-the-less, adult human beings even with college educations, would discuss this option as if it were a real possibility.
Now once again the 25th Amendment is under consideration. This time it is more serious. The situation is more serious and the conversations are more serious. Regardless of the outcome, it is beneficial for Mike Pence to publicly announce his intention to pursue the 25th Amendment. True, our immature-child President will want to lash out. However, Pence’s action will put the Federal Government on notice that the times have changed. People will be more willing to defy the President and/or resign knowing that the Vice President has initiated this effort.
Second, Mike Pence should announce that in any Congressional or DOJ investigations on anything that happened during this Administration that he will testify freely and willingly.
To become a profile in courage is not easy. First there needs to be a situation where there is a need for someone to be a profile in courage. Second, one of the people in that situation then needs to rise to the occasion.
I concluded the blog by saying he would not. Perhaps now, it will be different. The country needs him to be the hero and not a zero.
We all engage in wishful thinking. It is one way to remain optimistic, to keep up one’s spirits, to have hope. It is also the proverbial Wiley Coyote running off the cliff – it works until you look down. Then SPLAT!
Mike Pence has been a source of wishful thinking. When this administration began there were a series of blogs in History News Network (HNN) about him. They had to do with his activation of the 25th Amendment to end the current administration almost immediately. In a series of posts to HNN, this contributor carefully explained how the 25th Amendment worked. But the analysis did not stop there. It was followed by a meticulously detailed description of every individual who would be involved in the implementation of the 25th Amendment to discharge the President and have the Vice President becoming the Acting President. The analysis demonstrated that the votes were there to make it happen. The writer confidently predicted that it would happen. If the current administration wouldn’t be the shortest on record it would be close to it. Obviously the 25th Amendment maneuver didn’t work or even happen unlike the Impeachment ploy. It should be noted that this writer also had confidently predicted that the 2016 elections would result in a Democratic victory with over 330 Electoral College votes and possibly over 350. All of this was pure wishful thinking. It gave the appearance of sound research while being based on absolutely nothing substantive. As you might expect, I don’t read this blogger anymore. The again that writer has refrained from making predictions and sticks to anodyne summaries of the past.
Recently Michael D’Antonio decided to engage in some wishful thinking. His article “Time for Pence to jump ship?” was posted on not HNN but CNN (June 11, 2020). D’Antonio wrote:
With a schism forming [in the Republican Party], the time is ripe for a high-level official to make the dramatic break that would signal that someone is ready to stand as the leader of the post-Trump Republican Party. I would nominate for this job, Vice President Mike Pence. Unprecedented? Pretty much. But the Trump era is unprecedented too, and Pence signaled, when he agreed that he would be Trump’s running mate, that he’s willing to do the unexpected.
Here we can observe three examples of wishful thinking:
1. That there still is a Republican Party – the Republican Party no longer exists except in name. Actual Republicans like Romney in the Senate and some governors are few and far between.
2. That there will be a post-Trump Party after 2020 – unless his health really takes a turn for the worse he will not leave the stage especially after defeat. And if Eugene Debs ran for President from jail, so can a convicted person today.
3. That Vice President Brown Nose is willing to do the unexpected.
D’Antonio compounds his wishful thinking with the following:
Pence should weigh the merits of declaring he won’t be vice president for a possible second term….Behind that mild-mannered persona lurks a savvy and opportunistic politician…. Conditions are perfect, in other words, for Mike Pence to observe that either he needs to spend more time with his family or believes the President would benefit from the excitement that would come were he to run with a fresh face — perhaps former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley — beside him. Pence could resign, saying Trump is just too loyal to fire him, and graciously make a path for himself to become the new leader of the GOP come the defeat of the Trump-Haley ticket in November.
It’s hard not to laugh when reading this. After all, D’Antonio is the author of Never Enough: Donald Trump and the Pursuit of Success and co-author with Peter Eisner of The Shadow President: The Truth About Mike Pence. He is a serious, reputable person. His opinions are sought on talk shows. Technically, he has made a case on paper of the merits of Vice President Brown Nose taking a bold dramatic action that would thrust him into a leadership position post-2020 elections. But in fact, what D’Antonio wrote is pure unadulterated wishful thinking.
The proof was shown a few days later on June 15, 2020. The headline for The New York Times tells the tale:
The article recounts how Pence “encouraged governors on Monday to adopt the administration’s claim that increased testing helps account for the new coronavirus outbreak reports, even though evidence has shown that the explanation is misleading.” Not surprisingly, the false claim was the same on previously made by the President and which would be repeated in Tulsa. Stop the testing means stopping the number of cases of new infections means the deaths decrease.
There is no sign of bold dramatic action. There are two ways the D’Antonio scenario could work. One is if he became convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was no way the ticket was going to win, he could abandon ship for his own survival. Second, if he got wind that he was going to be dumped for Haley, he might bow out first. But either way, he still would be Vice President until January and still perform as a Brown Nose. The result will be he sold his soul for nothing.
Trumpicans and the Coronavirus
Tulsa exposed the wishful thinking of Trumpicans. Consider these examples:
1. “This coronavirus is a little bit hyped. The media hypes things,” Anonymous.
If only FAKE NEWS knocked off their hyped reporting, there would be no talk of 120,000 dead and they would not be dead either…or the deaths aren’t really from the coronavirus anyway. Who knows how this unidentified electrician from Seattle is able to live in an alternate reality. The whole thing must be a hoax.
This second example lends credence to Trumpicans thinking it is a hoax.
2. “It’s all fake. They’re just making the numbers up. I haven’t seen anybody die, not from coronavirus. I don’t know anybody who’s got it,” said Mike Alcorn, Wichita, Kansas.
3. “I’ve been watching this closely over the last four months or so, and the numbers just don’t add up,” said Jeff Eskew, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
4. “[The virus] is a scare tactic more than anything. And I just don’t believe all those deaths are coronavirus,” said Donald Fanning, Wichita Kansas.
Do you see any global warming in your backyard? I don’t see any global warming in your backyard. It’s all fake, it’s all made up.
How can you even blame China for a hoax? How can China be at fault if it’s all fake? That’s like saying the Bolton book is a complete lie but the lies are classified so it shouldn’t be published.
Remember, Trumpicans like mainland Chinese only get their news from the government propaganda machine. What are the odds on Fox showing how much better Europe has done then the United States in reducing the number of coronavirus deaths? What are the odds of Fox showing how much better countries from around the world have done in stopping the coronavirus? What are the odds on Fox showing the rise in coronavirus deaths in Trumpican states because it is not a New York problem anymore? The Trumpican wishful thinking on the coronavirus will continue until Trumpicans start dying in droves and they all do know someone who died from it. I suspect, that little by little more and more Trumpicans will learn to live in the real world because it will become more and more difficult to live a lie.
THE TULSA TURNING POINT
I am going to go out on a limb with my wishful thinking. Tulsa was nothing like it was hyped to be or I expected it to be based on the hype. Tulsa may signal the turning point. For weeks now, Little Donnee Wanney has been the equivalent of a caged animal who hasn’t been feed. He was starved for the energy of a raucous crowd that would ignite his election campaign and power him to victory in November. Without the energy of Trumpicans he is just a tired irritable old man who has trouble walking down a ramp or raising a glass of water with one hand. With their energy he becomes the Lord and Savior, the Chosen One, Blessed Be his Name. There is no Plan B. He has no vision except that he be the center of attention and be re-elected so he can stay out of jail. If the defining characteristic of his campaign in 2016 is removed from him, he has nothing left but hissy fit tweets from his White House bunker. A crowd of over 6000 when 19,000 indoor and 40,000 outdoor were expected doesn’t cut it. Where were all the people! Have they seen the light?
Tulsa is more than just a campaign event. True he can use it to take credit for making the country aware of a holiday that has been celebrated for 155 years. That is no small achievement. But Tulsa may be more remembered as a Toto moment. The curtain has been pulled backed. He looks not just like a loser to Biden but weak and wrong on everything: coronavirus, the economy, China, race, the courts, his niece, and his finances. Right now it seems as if the refs will have to throw a red flag for piling on just to save him. The military is not going to support him if he loses the election and claims “foul.” Even Barr seems to have his limits. President One-Term won’t want to leave the White House, but who will be left to help him remain there? All the adults are gone, the only ones left are loyalists and the son in-law. It will be easier to get him to leave the White House following an election defeat than I previously had thought. Perhaps Brian Williams is right to have started a countdown.
Every once in a while, the 25th Amendment returns to the national spotlight for a brief moment. It does so because it provides a mechanism for the removal of a president from office in midstream. Instead of having to deal with the vagaries of the voting public or having to wait possibly years to do what is needed to be done because of the EMERGENCY RIGHT NOW, the 25th Amendment can be activated to resolve the current crisis.
The primary purpose of the amendment was due to medical conditions. There may be times when the president is physically incapable of performing the duties of office. The most obvious examples would be when the president is under sedation for an operation or in recovery. In these circumstances it is understandable that the world knows that someone, meaning the Vice President, is in full control and able to act as the president even though the president is still alive. To the best of knowledge the amendment was not designed or intended to address situations where an incompetent person had been elected either legitimately or illegitimately. It certainly was not designed to remove someone from office simply because you disagree with the person on everything or think the president has engaged in illegal and/or traitorous actions. For those concerns the proper course of action is impeachment.
At this point, I wish to return and update some previous blogs I wrote on this subject. I will do so by focusing on the op-eds of Ronald Feinman, no relation, who reflects the fervent belief of the desperate in the immediate need for deploying the 25th amendment.
Initially, I was drawn to his postings on the History News Network because of his last name. I was startled at first glance to see my name even though I had not recently submitted anything. I began to pay careful attention to him due to his post of November 4, 2016, entitled Who Will Win about the upcoming election. The highlights of his prognostications were:
This author’s projection has certainly changed as a result of events and controversies, and the growing evidence that Hillary Clinton should do better than originally predicted in May [bold added].
The final predicted Electoral College is 352-186, with 27 states for Hillary Clinton plus one electoral vote from Nebraska, and 23 states and one electoral vote from Maine for Donald Trump. In a few days, we shall see how accurate my forecast is. [Bold not added!]
And Hillary Clinton’s victory will propel the Democrats into control of the US Senate, with a projected gain of seats in Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina at the least, making for a 6 seat gain to 52 seats, and possibly winning Arizona, Florida, and Missouri, so a maximum of 55 seats or a 9 seat gain. The House of Representatives will remain in Republican hands, but not by 30 seats, but more likely by 10-12 seats, so from a present total of 247-188 to 227-208 or 229-206.
Obviously he was as wrong as wrong can be even with the then unknown Russian violation of the American election.
It did not take long for that Feinman to shift gears from the election results to the 25th Amendment. In my blog Impeachment: The Elitist Democrat Holy Grail, I surveyed his op-eds from 2017.
Even before the inauguration had occurred, that Feinman already was calculating how the new president could be removed from office.
He seems, clearly, to be living in a parallel universe, out of touch with reality, and obsessed with his own vanity. Fortunately, there is a constitutional remedy: The 25th Amendment to the Constitution, Section 4.
Feinman then detailed how Vice President Mike Pence and Speaker of the House Paul Ryan could lead this action. To be fair, the cabinet selected by Swamp Builder had not yet become the most corrupt and incompetent cabinet in the history of the United States – it had not even taken office! Nonetheless, that Feinman was preparing for what needed to be done:
It would take a lot of political courage and conviction for Pence and Ryan and the cabinet officers to agree that Donald Trump is unfit to be President, and for them to be convinced that Trump is so dangerous he shouldn’t have access to the nuclear codes or continue as Commander in Chief. This is a situation that must be monitored and evaluated on an ongoing basis. The fate of the nation depends on our political leaders exercising good judgment.
Feinman continued to monitor the situation and followed up with the blog
Not even one month into the new administration and the person who was completely wrong about the election results, offered another presidential prophecy: the briefest term in office ever. The catalyst for the removal from office will be …are you ready for this?… Mike Pence.
The fact that Vice President Mike Pence played a major role in pushing Flynn out is a sign that Pence is already asserting himself with Trump, and it seems clear that Pence will not stand by and allow our foreign policy to be damaged, or our national security to be endangered. The American people, ultimately, would not expect anything less.
It is difficult two years later to read these lines without busting a gut laughing. And people say Kellyanne Conway lives in an alternate reality!
In any case, it seems likely that Donald Trump will be leaving the Presidency at some point, likely between the 31 days of William Henry Harrison in 1841 (dying of pneumonia) and the 199 days of James A. Garfield in 1881 (dying of an assassin’s bullet after 79 days of terrible suffering and medical malpractice). At the most, it certainly seems likely, even if dragged out, that Trump will not last 16 months and 5 days, as occurred with Zachary Taylor in 1850 (dying of a digestive ailment). The Pence Presidency seems inevitable.
I confess that after this prophecy, I checked the calendar to see when the 199th day of reckoning would occur. Another way to check was with MSNBC The Eleventh Hour with Brian Williams. Night after night he intones the number of days into the presidency as if he is counting the number of days Americans were held in captivity in Iran. We are far beyond 199 days now. What will Brian Williams do when the number hits 1000? When if ever will Ronald Feinman return to the real world?
He still had not by August, 2017. At that time he offered another prediction.
Expect the eventual abandonment of Trump by Republicans as the months go by into 2018. A Pence Presidency is likely coming sooner rather than later, with the best situation for Republicans being to resolve the matter before the midterm Congressional elections next year.
At this point, he seemed ready to abandon the 25th Amendment as a solution. Instead he turned to impeachment.
The crisis that Donald Trump represents cries out for movement toward impeachment and trial to remove him from the Presidency, unless he agrees to resign, or Vice President Mike Pence, in league with Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and a majority of the Presidential Cabinet agree to remove Trump under the 25th Amendment Section 4, as mentally incompetent to stay in office. Neither of these seems likely at this stage, as we enter the eighth month of the Trump Presidency later in August.
Feinman then names names. He names names in both the House of Representatives and the Senate as possible candidates to vote first for impeachment and then conviction. He is thorough in his analyses even when they bear no relation to what will happen.
It’s not a matter of when Republicans are ready to turn on Trump,” the aide said. “It’s about when they decide they’re ready for President Pence.” A Pence Presidency is likely coming sooner rather than later, with the best situation for Republicans being to resolve the matter before the midterm Congressional elections next year.
Those elections have come and gone. Now the Republicans lack a majority in the House of Representatives. Republicans still control the Senate.
There is one last blog by Feinman that deserves attention. It does so because it was the Number 1 op-ed on the History News Network for 2018. So even though he is never right, Feinman clearly has tapped into the mindset of that audience. The op-ed piece was:
The scandals surrounding President Donald Trump are metastasizing rapidly, much more than anyone would have thought just a few months ago.
It sounds very similar to what people are saying right now. He continued with:
With the midterm congressional elections now less than seven months away, and with the Republicans running scared about potential massive losses, and with more criticism emerging from not only respectable conservatives, but also from some of his own loyalists, Donald Trump’s time in the Presidency seems rapidly coming toward a sudden end.
The persistently wrong prophet then draws on his previous prophecy to update it:
So while it now seems likely that Trump will outlast the 492 days of President Zachary Taylor, to be reached on May 27, 2018, once thought by this scholar to be the end point of the Trump Presidency, it seems evident that Trump will leave office before the 4th shortest Presidency, that of Warren G. Harding from 1921-1923, a total of 881 days. This would be Thursday, June 20, 2019.
So with 15 months down in the Trump Presidency, the chance of his leaving in the next 14 months at the most is on the horizon.
I confess, I considered waiting until June 20, 2019, to write this post. Due to the recent flurry over the 25th Amendment and the constant chatter about impeachment by the Democratic House of Representatives, I decided to post it now. To be the best of my knowledge, as we approach the one-year anniversary of the June 20, 2019 prophecy, Feinman has not updated or revised his prediction. One should keep in mind, despite all the times his wrong about the 2016 election and the 25th Amendment in 2017, this op-ed piece predicting a June 20, 2019, termination was the most popular op-ed piece by hits on the History News Network. That popularity reflects the desires of the audience and undoubtedly a great deal of additional people praying or wishing for the end of days for the Trump presidency so Brian Williams finally can cease his count. Fortunately Ronald Feinman lacks the stature of William Miller so June 20, 2019, will not be the great disappointment October 22, 1844, was.