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The United States of Trump and the United States of America: Is It Time to Separate?

Virginia Slavery Map 1861 by US Coast Survey before the split (Library of Congress)

America’s Third Civil War is accelerating and in unexpected ways. There has been a change in the tone of the discourse. I have been writing about the Third Civil War for years. During that time, people generally talked about the Culture Wars instead. Recently there has developed a more realistic concept of the stakes involved. The national effort to suppress the vote is only part of the changed circumstances. This time it is accompanied by a change in the certification of the winner where Trumpican state legislatures will make the decision. What is at stake now is not the relitigation of 2020 but the rigging of the vote for 2024 for a preordained result. There is an open awareness that the continued existence of the United States as a constitutional republic is now at stake.


These changes present the country with new challenges and therefore the need for new solutions. Let’s review the situation.

The First Civil War was an all-or-nothing conflict. Both the Loyalists and the Patriots engaged in a winner-take-all war. Each side sought to govern all 13 states or to maintain all 13 as colonies. The British might have been willing to lose the North if it could have kept the South but thanks to Cornwallis, we will never know.

The Second Civil War was different. The Confederacy was willing to settle for half-a-loaf, the same area the British might have settled for. It did not seek the conquest of the North or to impose its way of life on the Union. By contrast, the Union as befitting its name sought dominion over the country.

The Third Civil War at present is being waged along the lines of the first one. Each side wants to govern the entire country.

The question to be raised now is are the two sides willing to settle for half-a-loaf or is it winner take all?


The question is not moot. The process of dividing into two countries already is underway. I am not simply referring to the well-known voting patterns with the infamous red and blue maps of Presidential elections. I am referring to how we live.

The first major example of the separation this century occurred with Medicaid. It was up to each state as to whether or not to participate in the Medicaid expansion. To the surprise of no one, the participation breakdown followed the presidential voting pattern with the Confederacy taking the lead in not joining the Union program.

Recent events have continued this pattern:

1. the lawsuit to the Supreme Court to invalidate the election
2. the support for the efforts of the loser to steal the election
3. the support for the insurrection on January 6
4. the lack of support for holding the instigator of the insurrection responsible
5. the lack of support for creating a January 6 commission to document the truth
6. the effort to restrict and suppress voting
7. the effort to rig how the votes are certified
8. the cessation of the $300 supplement.

One does not need a degree in statistics to see the consistency in approach taken by the states led but not limited to the Confederacy. This continuity of the South through the three civil wars renders meaningless Lincoln’s observation that a house divided can not stand. We are not a house divided, we are two houses and have been right from the start.

Polls indicate the roughly one-quarter of Trumpicans see a Storm coming when Satanic-worshiping pedophiles will finally get what is coming to them.

Polls indicate that roughly one-quarter of Trumpicans agree that violence will be needed to save the country.

Even as Michael Flynn walks back his support for a coup, the fact still remains that the question was asked with great seriousness and Flynn’s supportive response was welcomed by the QAnon audience, one of the leading religious groups in the United States now.

It should be noted that gun sales are skyrocketing. People are armed and ready for action.


What will it take to light the fuse? What will it take to spark the fighting? What will be involved in transforming the mostly peaceful Civil War so far excluding January 6 to a more violent one?

Personally, my best guess as of now is the 2024 Presidential elections with 2022 serving as a preview. Neither side will accept the results of the election. We already know that. In this regard, 2020 was practice for 2024. What will happen when one side refuses to accept the results in 2024?

Scenario 1: Suppose despite all the voter suppression and rigged certification, Joe Biden wins re-election, what will Trumpicans do? One might think that under those circumstances it would be impossible for Trumpicans to declare that the election was stolen. Given all the changes they have implemented, how could they do so? Under normal circumstances that would be true. However if Biden wins again despite the Trumpican effort to rig the vote, Trumpicans will be desperate. At this point, what can they do to save the country? The answer will be a violent one. To anticipate and mitigate that possibility, if separation into the United States of America and the United States of Trump is already planned, the need for a violent resolution may be curtailed. Instead the division will be embraced.

Scenario 2: The voter suppression and rigged certification work and Joe Biden is defeated. If Trumpicans prevail in 2024, California and New York immediately will embrace John C. Calhoun and become champions of state’s rights. A lot will depend on who controls the Congress since we have seen how the losing side can attempt to derail the winner. For that matter, who knows what issues will be raised regarding the election of the Representatives and Senators.

At this point there are too many fluid variables to determine what the likely course of action will be except that it will be ugly.


The key to minimizing the violence and uncertainty may be in following the example of West Virginia. In the Second Civil War, the people of what became West Virginia separated from the Confederate state of Virginia. They did not ask Virginia’s permission; they just did it and with the Federal approval.

We need to follow that precedent. The eleven Confederate states need to divide into their constituent parts – part Trumpican and part American. The boundary lines should not be that difficult to determine. There already are gerrymandered districts at the Congressional and state level. Voting results are known at the county level. As part of the post-2020 census reapportionment, the Confederate state legislatures effectively will divide their states into two groups. The next step is to take that division further by creating separate states based on those boundary lines drawn by the Confederates.

The result will be eleven new states. They will need names. They will need a constitution. It very well could be the existing state constitution with a name change will do. Either the Trumpican state or the Union state will need a new capital depending on where the current capital is located. The Congressional representatives will need to be allocated between the two states based on population. Each state will be entitled to two Senators so most likely the new state will elect two Senators in 2024 but that will vary from state to state.

Obviously there will be issues to decide. Where is the Department of Election located? Motor Vehicles? The State University campuses? The State prisons? Computer files will need to be transmitted. Pensions will need to be allocated. Each state will have its own voting guidelines. These are straightforward decisions given that both sides will welcome the separation.


Consider the benefits of dividing the eleven Confederate states into their Trumpican and American components.

1. There will be no need to suppress the vote.
2. There will be no need to rig the winner certification process.
3. There will be no uncertainty about who will win in each state.
4. There will be a ratcheting down of tension since there is nothing to fight over.

Take Georgia as an example. Instead of 16 electoral votes in a winner-take-all battleground, there will be two states. Each will have 7 Representatives reflecting the virtual 50:50 split of the statewide vote in the presidential and Senate elections in 2020. Each will have two Senators. The total of 18 electors will be split 9:9 in 2024. This will represent a gain of 9 for the Trumpicans and loss of 7 for Biden. Of course, the results in Florida and Texas will favor Biden. To some extent, the process matches what Maine and Nebraska do now in allocating electoral votes by congressional district. The difference will be that state will have split into two. Temporarily there will be 61 states. Other states outside the Confederacy may wish to split into two parts as well increasing that number. That will last only until the Trumpican states separate from the United States (July 4, 2026?). In the meantime, all will be quiet on the voting front and the trench warfare will cease.

Stefanik and Cyber Ninjas: Shrinking the Trumpican Party

Honey, I shrunk the Trumpican Party!

For many years many people have been waiting for Trumpicans to catch on that they are being scammed. Maybe this book. Maybe this comment. Maybe this action or lack of action. But somehow that moment of truth never arrives. Over 2 million people freely gave over $250 million just because they were asked to, the greatest individual con in the history of the United States.

Is there a limit? With 100% of the Trumpicans representing 70% of the Republicans believing the election was stolen and Liz Chaney about to be cleansed from power, it is hard to imagine that the end is insight for the complete and total domination of the former Republican Party by the Loser President. And then there is Elise Stefanik and the Cyper Ninjas to make one wonder if the goal of the Trumpican Party is to grow or to cleanse it.


Stefanik was elected has a Republican. Once upon a time she represented the great white female hope for the Republican Party. She was the young bright candidate who would help lead the Republican Party to the overlooked and seemingly lost segments of the voting public. She would make a difference. She would help grow the Party.

For several years, Stefanik fulfilled that vision, that hope, that promise. She was delivering on the Republican quest to win national elections. Then something happened. She became a TRINO, Trumpican in name only. Perhaps the impeachment changed her. Perhaps she saw that the Republican Party was dying and ambition kicked in. Think of how Nikki Haley vacillated between being a Republican and being a Trumpican. She ended being a flip flopper who belonged nowhere and apparently has no political future, not even on Foxhub.

Stefanik does not intend to make that mistake. She is in it for a career. However she cannot escape her Republican past. No sooner was the announcement made that she was the chosen one then the questions were raised: WHY HER? The question was asked on Foxhub. The question was asked by loyal House Trumpicans who had been passed over. The question was asked by rightwing organizations who rated voting records. Stefanik had not ranked high with these people and organizations so why was she being handed this position of power on a silver platter?

First, the only true issue in the Trumpican Party is loyalty. No matter what anyone thinks about the political position on various issues by Trumpicans, the only one that matters to the Longtime Democrat and Clinton supporter is loyalty. Stefanik demonstrated loyalty in a vigorous and energetic way to an audience of one. That was enough.

Second, in a time of identity politics, she rated higher than her male Trumpican colleagues no matter how loyal they were. It’s all about the optics.

Now pre-Trumpican conservatives know what everyone else knows. He has no values. He had no objection to becoming President as a Democrat. He just could not do it. So he is faking it as a Republican instead. The party labels are a matter of complete indifference to him as long as he is the center of attention and everyone is loyal to him.

Is the recognition of this truth that he does not care about issues going to cause pre-Trumpican conservatives to abandon him? No. Would they be upset if he did not run in 2024 and a real conservative did? No. Is that going to happen? No. They are stuck with him too even though they have seen the truth of this hollow narcissistic person.

Will the ouster of Cheney because she is not loyal to the lie encourage people to vote Trumpican? Will watching her pay the price for telling the truth cause suburban white women to flock to the Trumpican Party? Will making a spectacle of the Trumpican Party help win elections? Do Trumpicans care?


Did you hear the one about the donkey who died of hunger in the middle of two piles of hay? The donkey could not decide which one to choose and died of starvation.

What happens when there are multiple Trumpicans competing for a single job? Stefanik could play the gender and an attractive TV performer who had gone to Harvard card. Now suppose there are three loyalists competing to the Trumpican candidate for governor in New York. How do you choose when every prospective candidate is a loyalist? It is easy when the task is to cleanse the Trumpican Party of disloyal Republicans, but what do you do when everyone is loyalist? How do you play the Apprentice “You’re fired” card when you are rejecting loyal Trumpicans in New York, Virginia, Ohio, and elsewhere? The closer we get to the primaries and the elections, the more choices the Loser President will have to make about candidates. That means more people will be upset. Not necessarily upset enough to cease being a Trumpican but it will hurt when your Lord and Savior, the Chosen One, Blessed Be his Name, does not choose you. The more choices he has to make among loyalists, the more feathers he will ruffle.


Think of the people who have been or who are advancing the cause that the election was stolen and the 45th President should be returned to the White House now.

Ridiculous Ruddy, Attack Mutt – Right now he is being sued, is under investigation for criminal charges, and running out of money. He once said that when this all over, he would be the hero. That could be true if he decided to flip. I doubt he realizes that or is capable of rising to the occasion. It still seems like a long shot that he will tell the truth. Perhaps if prison is staring him in the face, but surely he will be pardoned after the 2024 elections return the 45th President to power, right?

Silly Sydney – What can you say about someone who communes with dead people and says no reasonable people would believe the bull-trump she has spouted? Tell it to a judge because she is being sued too. Will she ever decide to tell the truth or is she a permanent resident of an alternate reality like Majorie Taylor QAnon?

Pillow Head – Would you buy a used pillow from him? How about a “new” one?

Cyber Ninjas – The circus grows more and more entertaining except that it is really happening. It is possible that even viewers of Foxhub and My America Reality Network will see the joke. True the ninjas will announce massive fraud and that Biden lost Arizona bigtime. True, Trumpicans will cheer the news. But it will not make any difference. There is no removal from office scenario that will work in the real world. Also if a massive fraud was perpetrated on the voters of Arizona, then there are people who need to be held accountable. Will the ninjas name names? Will the Arizona Republicans dare to press criminal charges against the alleged stealers of the election? If not then what was this all about? If after the ninjas announce the results and the Arizona Republicans do nothing and just whimper off the stage they will look like the fools that they are? If they press charges, then they will find that they are the targets of countersuits for sums of money that will bankrupt the Party forever.

Are these the people who will help grow the Trumpican Party? Are these the people who will win back white suburban women? Is being a laughingstock a sound political strategy?

If the Squad represents the true power in the Democratic House setting then agenda, then it is the House Frat Boy, Marjorie Taylor QAnon, and Rocky Mountain Airhead who define the Trumpican Party. Are they the way to grow the Party?

Meanwhile Joe Biden will quietly go ahead doing his job. All the commotion is on the Trumpican side with the cleansing of Liz Cheney, the installation of a loyalist non-conservative Elise Stefanik, the criminal activities of the House frat boy, and the circus in Arizona. At least the suppression of Democratic votes is moving full speed ahead. Oh wait. That suppression applies to Republican Party voters too. Guess who is going to get an earful next year when loyalist Trumpicans have problems voting?